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Appendices | Administrators"Administrators" are the users granted special authority to police Conservapedia. It often seemed as though there wasn't a sane administrator among the lot (me excepted, of course!). However, this is probably because the "sore thumbs" tend to be noticed more. Although everyone has their faults, some administrators were, for the most part, quite reasonable. But the less reasonable ones tended to have a much larger presence than the more reasonable ones. Administrators have more power—that's both abilities and authority—than other editors. Unfortunately, they seemed to forget (or not realise at all) that with greater power comes greater responsibility. I sometimes felt that I was spending more time "discussing" things with the other administrators than constructive editing on Conservapedia. Just like in a television show where the various characters all have unique and exaggerated personalities, it seemed each of the senior, and some of the other, Conservapedia administrators had their own, umm, 'unusual' aspects, but in a very obvious way. I don't want to talk too much about particular personalities here, but in some cases at least, people familiar with Conservapedia will easily recognise individuals from the descriptions, so there may not be much point in them remaining anonymous. But there are a few things that many of them had in common. Power corruptsFor one, it seemed as though the power went to their heads. Anything that they did was beyond question. I was the only one to put a note on my user page that, although I was an administrator, unless it was clear that I was speaking as one, any comments I made, and any edits I made, were to be taken as though made by an ordinary editors. That is, they were not sacrosanct simply because they were said and made by an administrator. The Body of ConservapediansThe Bible says that a body is made of many parts: "The body is a unit, though it is made up of many parts; and though all its parts are many, they form one body"1. Following this theme, it adds that "The eye cannot say to the hand, "I don't need you!" And the head cannot say to the feet, "I don't need you!"2. But on Conservapedia, all we "needed" was people to write articles, and this attitude came from the top. Mere "housekeeping"-type jobs didn't really count. As explained in chapter 3, the user named Learn together didn't get promoted to administrator for many months, because his many, many housekeeping-type edits (for which having administrator powers would have been useful) didn't count as "substantive" contributions. Yet most of the senior administrators generally didn't sully their typing fingers with this type of work either. Adding categories was viewed with suspicion, correcting spelling and grammar, although not unwelcome, didn't count for much, and hardly any effort was spent on setting style standards, such as how references should be formatted, whether article titles should be in lower case or title case, and so forth. Of course, writing new conduct rules that must be obeyed was a different matter, and despite the main rules page saying that it was the only page of rules, other "guideline" pages—which must also be obeyed—proliferated. "On the contrary, those parts of the body that seem to be weaker are indispensable, and the parts that we think are less honorable we treat with special honor. And the parts that are unpresentable are treated with special modesty, while our presentable parts need no special treatment. But God has combined the members of the body and has given greater honor to the parts that lacked it, so that there should be no division in the body, but that its parts should have equal concern for each other. If one part suffers, every part suffers with it; if one part is honored, every part rejoices with it."3 Rules are for other peopleThe rules also seemed to apply to everyone except the administrators themselves. So despite the rule requiring editors to be civil and forbidding them from bullying, ridiculing, or denigrating other editors, administrators would often tell someone that they were "clueless", threaten them with blocks despite not having broken any rules, and call them "liberal" simply because they disagreed with an administrator. Do as I say, not as I doOne administrator in particular was quite inconsistent in his actions. For example, he created numerous trivial articles, such as this one... ![]() ... but at other times objected to small articles, and deleted the following article written by others on the grounds of it being "insubstantial"... ![]() Personal comments not allowed—unless I or someone I like makes themOne of the administrators often chided (or worse) others for making "personal comments", despite ad hominem arguments being frequently employed by Andy and a number of his administrators. This administrator removed me from the Administrator e-mail group for making "personal comments" within that group, but when TK sent me an abusive e-mail, with copies to three others, including this administrator, he said nothing. I even appealed to him to be consistent, but his only reply was dismissive. Shame on you, Philip Rayment. I reject your lack of logic and vindictiveness, both here, and on wiki. You are everything you accuse me and others of being. A classic case of it. In your clerk-like pettiness, you bluster and bleeting, you just plain talk everyone to death. Your only respect is for YOUR truth, no one else's. Responses to you must past the muster of Judge Rayment, or they are summarily rejected. As was told to another famous blusterer and bully: Have you at long last, no shame, sir? Have you not one iota of humility or charity in you? Is there nothing so low that you will not stoop to? You and I disagree, certainly, on many CP issues. Yet your propensity to smear, bring up old and discredited garbage shows the possibility of mental illness, or at the very least an unhealthy obsession with demanding your way. A person with any self respect would avoid the shameful display you continue to put on here and on CP, and just leave. I was invited here by the owner, and others who continue to display loyalty, respect and common sense. What did I find upon arrival? Your filth and vituperation! Deliberately you left your stinking garbage for newly elevated Administrators to find, to sabotage this group, CP and me. Time to board the train, Philip, and chug-chug-chug away. I will not subject your new group members to this response, so I am emailing it to those concerned, who have proved their fairness. --TK I didn't reply to TK. Instead, I wrote to the administrator (one of the ones who received TK's e-mail) who had removed me from the group citing a "Shame on you all" remark that I had made to the other administrators in the group (for ignoring the evidence I presented of TK working against Conservapedia). One of the issues I have on Conservapedia is a lack of consistency.
And as you consider yourself a competent mediator, I'm appealing to you to
show some consistency in this case. I'm also expanding the discussion
beyond just TK's e-mail to me.
I called TK a "proven saboteur". Whether or not it actually is
proven is not the point I want to discuss at the moment. I'd like to
point out that, although I made a "personal remark", I did so with
considerable evidence to back it up.
You chide me for acting like a judge, but isn't that what you are doing
in criticising me for "personal remarks"? You said that I
"must not" make personal remarks. Who gave you the authority to declare
that? Haven't you just appointed yourself judge of me in that
regard? Before you answer that, I point out the following:
In fact the bulk of TK's e-mail was negative personal remarks (and I've
skipped a few milder ones). And unlike my criticism of him which was
backed with considerable evidence, there was not one shred of evidence backing
his comments.
So where's the criticism of TK for his "personal remarks"?
Oh, by the way, I missed a few:
And you specifically said that
my "shame on you all" was a personal comment. So surely there
can be no doubt that TK is also guilty. But where's the rebuke for
him?
And in case I need to explain
it, TK's e-mail, although not to the sysop group, was still to a group of
people; it wasn't a private e-mail just to me. So if and when you do
rebuke him, for consistency, it should be copied to all the people who
received his e-mail to me.
Philip
Rayment
His reply completely sidestepped most of my e-mail to him. Philip, The reason negative personal remarks are intolerable is that they sidetrack us from issues of principles and facts. You are a great bloke, but your idea that personal criticisms are valid goes too far. I wish you would consider how much pain it might cause the target. I was in the military, and I agonized over the issue of causing pain to people in combat operations - even when those operations were 100% legal. I finally got out of the military, because I didn't want to have all that on my conscience. Anyway, Andy said he'll back me up on this. So if you want back in the group, you'll have to give some ground on "justifiable criticisms" of other group members. We love you, but we can only take so much of this. I tried again. You've completely missed the main point of my e-mail to you.
My main point was the inconsistency of rebuking me for making a
few negative personal remarks, whilst both allowing TK to make
numerous negative personal remarks about me without any rebuke,
and you also making negative personal remarks about Tim.
If the answer to each of those question is "no", then how can you
possibly justify rebuking me for doing it when you do it and you don't rebuke
TK for doing it?
To keep this brief, I'll leave the matter of group membership for
now. But please answer those questions I've put to you
above.
Philip Rayment
I initially got no reply. A follow up to prompt a reply resulted in this:
I have nothing to say. You seem to be telling me that I was inconsistent and that I should not have rebuked you.
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