| Chapters - Introduction
- Problems
- Andy Schlafly
- Administrators
- RationalWiki
- The TK Saga
- Guard Dog
- Obama
Appendices - Explaining Wikis
- Admin. e-mail Groups
- Kevin Conley letter
- TK as E.Wig
- 'Wise counsel' letter
- RationalWiki content
- The LDA and Ultimahero
- Feedback
| Kevin Conley letter
This is the letter received by a number of senior administrators from a person calling himself Kevin Conley. Green text is where I have removed a name, e-mail address, or profanity.
As explained in chapter 6, this was initially dismissed as fabrication, but discovering that E.Wig was TK convinced me that it was genuine.
Mr. Schlafly,
I hope you will read this, as I will not write again.
TK is a member of Rationalwiki, using the name "EWig".
He has been banning good CP users and installing
subversive "socks" from rationalwiki, and passing
information from the CP sysops
"special-discussion-group" mailing list and copies of
your emails to rationalwiki members, and is trying to
frame Rob S for it.
It is easy to see TK is also E Wig, if you look at the
Rationalwiki page for user:EWig:
http://www.rationalwiki.com/wiki/User_talk:E.Wig
At one point TK posts as "EWig", but forgets to log
in, so his IP shows on his post - 24.176.180.181 -
this is one of TK's IPs. Check this against his IPs at
Conservapedia.
This same IP shows on a dozen posts made by both
"EWig" and "TK". You can see this by looking at the
"history" for TK's IP on the Rationalwiki board:
http://www.rationalwiki.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.176.180.181
A couple of banned CP users had an attack of
conscience and made these communications public (there
are more than this too)
---
TK: Andy posted to the group that although you had
editing rights, you beared watching.... your Phoenix
sock.
AmesG: Noooooo - Why?
TK: who knows..perhaps because somone at the forum is
alerting him? or perhaps someone copied the info when
that forum was opened by Kels?
AmesG: No, I'd be banned if so.
TK: maybe. andy doesnt believe anything right away.
for the next week, stick to [Profanity removed] some moron YEC would
be interested in.
AmesG: Done & done.
TK: I asked Linus for a special forum to hide RW shit
from CP. I wanted a place free of CP prying eyes.
"Subversive" makes sense, since socks have to be kept
secret as do Vandalism attacks.
But a forum that all can enter except one member? WTF
is that? So typical! They post on RW about a open
community, where everyone runs it. I post that what
they say is bullshit...and get attacked for saying it!
Called a liar! Then here, they cannot wait to exclude
me. I don't have a problem being bashed for what I do,
as E.Wig...but TK is an act. They need to understand
that.
---
To: TK
From: Ames [name removed by request] [AmesG's email address]
Subject : Taking a gamble.
My sock "Phoenix" has read the LA Times reporter's
article, and is curious about RationalWiki. He will go
to RW this evening to seek to figure out what's going
on there. So, two things:
1. DO NOT publicly run a checkuser on him. He has the
same IP as my AmesG account.
2. DO make fun of him on RW. A LOT. The more you make
fun of him, the more street cred I get on CP.
---
To : Ames [name removed by request] [AmesG's email address]
From : TK
Subject : RE: Taking a gamble.
I hope it doesn't backfire on you, Ames. I'll stay out
of it since many know I have another ID there.
---
To: E.Wig/TK
From: Ames [name removed by request] [AmesG's email address]
Subject : RE: Taking a gamble.
Do you think it would backfire? I'll scrub it if you
do. But, my reasoning is that if Andy saw me getting
beaten up on RW, he might start to think of me a
little better.
---
To : Ames [name removed by request] [AmesG's email address]
From : TK
Subject : RE: Taking a gamble.
Phoenix will be fine, if you invest in some good
editing, article creation. No posting to others that
you know Linus and the others sock accounts, no
posting to Andy's page.
I can post that edit to the group.....make Rob worried
about his email and laptop, lol.
FYI...Andy has guessed someone from RW is working
Conservative, feeding him all that bogus shit about
citations, etc. So while someone has fooled the fool,
Andy isn't as much a fool as some think he is. ;-)
---
To: Linus [Linus's email address]
From: TK
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007
Read the convo on AmedG's page, jtl comes there,
mentions my edit of the TK archives, which, Linus, you
aint so dumb, you know what he was doing, publicly
linking Ewig with TK. Now can you recognize he's a bad
apple?
---
To: TK
From: Linus [Linus's email address]
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007
I doubt that Andy comes and regularly trolls over
Ames' talk page -- and, if he does, you can suggest
that you're setting a trap for us, couldn't you? Not
lie, but something like "well, I could be setting a
trap for them, couldn't I ;). And I could have gotten
several already, couldn't I?".
---
To : E.Wig/TK
From: Ames [name removed by request] [AmesG's email address]
Subject: Watch the fireworks
http://www.rationalwiki.com/wiki/User_talk:RobS#That.27s_it.2C_I.27m_blowing_your_cover
I'm pretending RobS is a sysop. I just want to see the
fireworks, and I figure it might work. Do you have any
secret sysop letters that Rob wrote, or Andy wrote so
I could pretend to "prove" this claim?
---
To : Ames [name removed by request] [AmesG's email address]
From : E.Wig/TK
Subject : RE: Watch the fireworks
Sysop on RW? Shouldn't the list show him to be one,
like Hoji? Then a screen shot could be taken? Trent or
Linus could manipulate the DB to show he became one
much earlier...
Read this. hahahah...
- PhilipR wrote: "I've said before that I doubt a
vandal is going to spend two weeks and 105 edits
(Phoenix' stats) just to potentially (i.e. with no
certainty) gain enough credibility to be granted the
right to upload images which, if offensive, will get
deleted and will get them an almost-instant ban. It's
not worth their effort."
Most of Phoenix's edits are trivial. For example, his
latest edit was simply to insert "Dr. Dino" into Kent
Hovind's entry. That edit, by the way, suggests
Phoenix is part of the RW crowd. 105 edits is just two
hours at that rate. Sure, the vandals would put in
that effort, and more, to hurt us.
If we give Phoenix uploading power, then he can share
his id and password with other vandals. At 5am or 6am,
they could upload pornography, or pro-homosexual
images. Or maybe they have something even more clever
in mind.
It doesn't hurt to watch Phoenix for another week. The
more I see, the more sure I am that he's AmesG,
however. Rob was alert to raise this possibility. I
had not even imagined it...
Phoenix just recreated the [[Reparative therapy]],
which was merged into [[Homosexuality]] after a long
debate; Phoenix has a history of editing on legal
matters and claims to be a paralegal. My guess is he's
AmesG. --RobS
http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Phoenix
Rob,
Check the other edits by Phoenix. Your comment really
makes little sense.
Let's give Phoenix the upload, since I am on late
enough to watch what he does. as is Justine. I believe
he was been corresponding with Andy, discussing their
mutual interest in anti-evolutionism, and I personally
don't think that fits in with Ames at all, or that he
could manage to fake such things even, for more than a
day. - TK
---
To : AmesG [AmesG's email address]
From : TK
Subject : Phoenix
The pattern fits; he started editing June 9,
[[Separation of church and state]] was one of his
first edits. Ames Grawer wrote "Old-time religion
steers United States toward old-world mistakes" for
the Rice Thresher in 2005 on Separation of Church and
State, where he also held the position of "Event
Coordinator for Secular Students"
http://the.ricethresher.org/opinion/2005/08/19/americamarginalizing
So Separation of Church and State is uppermost in
his mind. He's continued edits in various legal terms
and cited a recent Supreme Court ruling on partial
birth abortion at [[Right to Life]]
http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Right_to_life&diff=prev&oldid=194669
On the old [[Preparative Therapy]] AmesG was involved
extensively on the talk page
http://www..conservapedia.com/Talk:Reparative_therapy
and he tried to use an unqualified source -- the Gay
Lesbian Bi Transgender LGBT as a legitimate source to
criticize Psychiatrists who practice Preparative
therapy. I could check AmesG old contribs, to see if
he edited in things like [[Video games]], which it
seems many of the younger RW cabalists have a big
interest in. --RobS
---
From : E.Wig/TK
Subject : RE: RationalWiki e-mail
People are getting pretty nutty, so let's clear some
things up, and stop the silliness, shall we?
My coming to RW was a direct result of wanting to
include more of you in understanding what I was doing,
and it was suggested to me by Linus and AmesG that you
guys would be delighted to find I was in agreement
with you. Contrary to the hate some are spreading, it
was with the full knowledge and encouragement of
Linus, and a couple of other of the cabal's leaders,
who I have covered for on CP, allowing them and their
socks to work, not just to be vandals, but to edit as
well.
It's pretty simple that someone doing and agreeing
with you isn't going to keep their position on CP. I
told a few what I was up to, but to tell too many was
a risk.
So there is the "history" unvarnished. I should note
that several of you are more like "TK" than you would
ever care to admit, since even knowing I agree with
you, the hating continues, and non-logical reasons are
being invented to continue it.
--E. Wig/TK
----
TK: someone made one of the private forums visible the
other morning, and its the one that lists the socks of
Ames, Linus, GodlessLiberal, some others, and of
course shows TK and Wig the same. if the "situation"
isnt resolved, I just break off contact and go back to
being TK.
rationalairdish: okay, i'll have a root around the
forums and see what's what.
TK: jtl put up the meese article, noted in his
comments the soul author was a CP Sysop, and had a
link to the edit log of it that clearly shows it to be
TK. since i was in reality helping those who actually
started RW, I especially thought it shitty.
rationalairdish: that's true enough
TK: which is the main reason i decided to take
Colin's, Linus's and Ames advice and out myself to a
select group of RW users on the forum. I requested the
cabal forum be created, so it would not be visible to
casual browsers.
rationalairdish: ok, i'll ask linus if i can get
access to it. (well, to any private forums)
TK: so all of the above is why I said, who knows whats
become of the plans I made with Ames and Colin
rationalairdish: it'll all work out - probably best to
lay low for a while.
TK: i might just have been tricked myself, and all my
posts forwarded to andy.
rationalairdish: i wouldn't imagine that would happen.
until they're sure you're secretly working for cp :)
TK: i have taken real risks, and even as E Wig am
being shuned and insulted. in the meantime plans are
wasting away and opportunities are lost and the whole
place getting further and further under the YEC's
control. and i suspect human, kels or jtl of sending
shit to andy. because i am noticing my being treated
differently, his not responding to my emails
instantly, like his previous pattern.
rationalairdish: hmmm, they'd be stupid to do it
without thinking it through. though, maybe your show
of dissent re BethanyS could have done something (or
your lack of discretion ;))
TK: to believe that TK is anything other than a parody
of some nutty right winger, isnt intelligent, lol. I
have fought with andy several times publicly, but he
has always beleived me loyal, not like Hoji, lol. I
posted in cabal, I needed them to continue to hate TK
publicly.
rationalairdish: well, you're not as extreme as
conservative or karajou. so you were much more
believable.
TK: well, in actuality, i am not YEC, and TK never
pretended to be. and by US standards I am a
conservative person, albeit a catholic (lapsed) and
pro choice, etc. me, i just cant stand the YEC
business and the using the kids for their political
agenda.
rationalairdish: anyways... i've gotta run. talk to
you later, EWig/TK/whatever ;)
TK: OK
---
TK: If Andy gets a copy of that forum, and I dont put
it past Kels or Jtl from doing it, i am a goner
Linus: Dude, you're still like, CPs most trusted
sysop. Do this: I'll launch a vandal attack. Lock the
site down. They love killing vandals. At 8:00, I'll
start vandalizing. Eastern Time. At 8:00 ET, I'll
launch massive vandalism. You can use siteadmin to
lock the site down, and save CP from the vandals. It
will show that you are still loyal, if they have any
suspicions. I'll get Icewedge and GL to help.
TK: I would suggest using the following code for
blocking a lot more instances of Icewedge.
I|i|1)(C|c)(E|e|3)(W|w)(E|e|3)(D|d)(G|g)(E|e|3)
--Tom Major
Linus: Sucks. But, I reg all my accounts manually
anyway, and I don't generally use Icewedge.
TK: from Andy: "finally figured out how to disable the
"Random page" feature, and I've disabled it!!!! I
assume that this how all the destructive bots work:
hit the Random page command, destroy the entry, hit
the Random page command, destroy the next entry, hit
the Random page command, destroy the third entry, etc.
I can't think of any other way for a bot to
systematically destroy entries. Ha ha ha. And
User:Autofire ("Vandals annoy me," he says on his user
page) has already complained. That guy is worth
checking out now. - In Christ, Andy
Linus: Tell him no, that you know of people who use
bots to go through categories destroying everything in
them. Of course, I did use [[Special:Random]] for
manual vandalism, but not for bots.
TK: Oh, btw, Jtl is trying to "out" me on Ames talk
page. Might be a good idea if his post went to the DB
graveyard.
Linus: Doggone it. Oh, I got another sock blocked for
no reason. At all. GeekyMoonbat.
TK: NC. stay away from NC addresses.
Linus: Oh. Have to get a proxy, then.
TK: karajou is blocking them for the names not
sounding right. we need to get rid of him bad.
Linus: Kewl. I'm wondering if I should register with a
girl's name. Really gay sounding, I know, but I'm
running out of ideas.
TK: you need to change your ways with socks. register,
make a user page, get some of them christian ubx, like
ames did. make good posts and comment the other home
schoolers ;-) they are such dopes.
Linus: When you say "other", what do you mean?
TK: your sock will be a good home schooler, perhaps,
or just a good christian boy. thats how the CP game is
played.
Linus: You know, I am a Christian, and a homeschooler.
TK: Will N is homeschooled. Put some "neato" bomber
pic on your page, he will be all yours, lol. hahaha.
Will complaining to andy, and beth, will do lots for
getting karajou removed and rob too. especially when
we fake an email from rob, cursing them as trolls.
Linus: Have a good name idea?
TK: just use a regular name and tie it to a yahoo or
msn hotmail thats a regular name. Timmy Smith or what
not. Tommy Majors uses his name spelled backwords.
----
AmesG: Uh oh, I think I'm being ignored... have I been
found out?
TK: I got him taken care of, don't expose yourself
needlessly, but that post was cool. Join the [Profanity removed]
RW forum: http://forum.rationalwiki.com/index.php
Linus has two unseen forums, Cabal and Subversion..the
last one being for you, me, GL, Linus, Colin, Trent.
I have convinced Linus to get a good sock, and work it
hard, as a goody little Christian boy, leave comments
for WillN, that new girl Beth. He can be our second
new sysop from our group, dude! Did you like my UBX
for you? Hahahaha! Get on chat later, aim if you
can-we can kick more around. Linus can be good at
working the home schooler's, planting ideas about how
mean Karajou and Rob are- eventually maybe RobS will
loose it as he sometimes does, and curse out on email
some little goody-goody, eh? That will start to shake
his confidence, especially when he denies sending it,
and all the headers show he did! I will then step in,
maybe Geo too, saying we think the email is "real".
--
Ames: Conservative's getting you in trouble. I've
started a short defense of you. It should also prove
that I'm not Ames: Ames hates TK, right :-D ?
TK: Andy said he was removing Phoenix's night editing,
because the vandal attacks were too close to AmesG
topics, lol
Ames: So has the RobS stuff stirred up any issues on
the CP mailing list?
TK: just added it today, minutes ago, as i never heard
back from you about my question as to if you wanted me
to
Ames: Sorry :-) DEFINITELY do. Anything you can do to
feed the paranoia, is K E Y. Specifically, do you
know anything else that's important that's passed
through the CP sysop list that I can post fairly
harmlessly, to prove I "have access" through RobS?
TK: 12:06 PM -----Original Message-----
From: special-discussion-groupOn Behalf Of TerryK
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 11:33 AM
To: Special Discussion Group
Subject: 2724 Rob, you might want to dump your email
client, reinstall...
Is it possible that the e-mails we've been receiving
are not from RobS, but from a script that someone put
in his inbox program? I mean, maybe he didn't write
the script, but when his e-mail went "out," someone
put the script in? I guess it could be him,
unwillingly then: I don't really care, as long as we
keep getting the e-mails. Otherwise, how would I know
to laugh my ass off at how RobS thinks every user from
Houston is me, and how Karajou simultaneously thinks
that every user from Atlanta is me, too? You guys
should stop picking on poor Houstonian users. There
are 6 million of us, you know.-AmesG 01:45, 24 June
2007 (CDT)
from "http://www.rationalwiki.com/wiki/User_talk:RobS"
Remember, there was the earlier post from some blog
owner, saying that Rob's posting there enabled him to
somehow access his computer and/or email? Does anyone
know how merely being on a site, or a blog, allows
this? --TK
TK: :p
Ames: Nice. Nicely done.
TK: in his paranoid, non-medicated state, we should
see a new burst of hyper activity soon, lol
Ames: Nice. On Schlafly's side?
TK: Rob
Ames: Ahah
TK: it will push him. if any RW people have
contacts...they need to spur on more attacks of him on
WP. the mob there needs to keep the pressure on
him...last time it nearly led to his breaking down.
Ames: Do you have any info that I could "leak"
harmlessly :-) ?
TK: gave Pachyderm 24x7 edit privileges. - God bless,
Andy
TK: nice he gives RW people editing when he denies
others for merely living in what is deemed the wrong
city, eh? make packy flippin, and andy will freak the
[Profanity removed] out. they think they have Flippin isolated to ND,
Grand Forks, lol
Ames: What do you mean?
TK: if you somehow made a post to flippin, congrats on
his getting 24/7 editing. I could post that to the
group. cause they would connect the dots to pacyaderm,
the elephant. they hate Flippin, they think they have
his IP isolated to ND, and he has indeed fed that. so
if Andy thought this "good" editor was a sock of
flippin, they would be in chaos.
Ames: Seriously? That fragile?
TK: hell yes, Karajou is. You know they like everyone
in a box, I knew Flippin wasnt in the area they think
he is, when he acknowledged he was, lol.
Ames: Nice - I'll do it, Okay
TK: just let flippin know, lol
Ames: Can you get me somethign else, though? Like,
"Andy, heard you're planning XXX"? Something that I
wouldn't know if I didn't have access? Please.... And
I'll e-mail flippin asap
TK: Karajou thinks he's a great detective. he
extrapolates lots of shit. sometimes meaningless shit
and gives it great meaning
- DemocraticRevolution showed up and started making
POV edits criticizing the US policy toward Cuba and
other things. After being warned, he suddenly set up a
full user page filled with user boxes. I was surprised
that a new user would be able to come up with that all
of a sudden, so I IP traced him... to Halifax. --DanH
We need to block this man permanently. We've got to do
a blanket block of his IP, because all he is doing is
hanging up, dialing again under a slightly-different
IP, and damaging the site. --Karajou
Ames: NICE. YOU ROCK
TK:
http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:DemocraticRevolution
- and look who first posted to him - another chance to
subtly connect him to Liberal [deceit] - Hoji
Ames: Oh no!!! I like it.
TK: i just found an email from you from 6/22. NM...i
responded. about working on stuff for robs page.
Ames: You mean, framing Rob?
TK: yes
Ames: Could you supply any more docs that would
suggest an ongoing info feed from RobS?
TK: yes, offered to, we need to go over some, perhaps
in that board chat so all can comment at the same
time.
special-discussion-group@googlegroups.com
Group Members:
[Aschlafly's email address], [TerryH's email address],
[geo.plrd's email address], [RobS's email address],
[Ed Poor's email address], [Karajou's email address],
[TK's email address], [DanH's email address],
[P. J. Rayment's email address], [Ymmotrojam's email address],
[CPWebmaster's email address], [different TK's email address]
----
To: TK
From: Linus [Linus's email address]
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007
Subject: Block?
Why did you block "Che"? What exactly did I do wrong?
---
To : Linus [Linus's email address]
From : E.Wig
Sent : Friday, June 22, 2007 10:37 PM
Subject : RE: Block?
LOL
1. Didn't let me know. If wanting to place socks,
tell me, I can post the welcome template, etc. Buys
time to vandalize or whatever.
2. You went straight for Hoji's page
3. Went to Sean the Sheep article.
Bohdan and Crocoite were leading the defense...I could
do little else but block it, and Bohdan emailed
everyone it was Level3 Communications, Atlanta...on
dialup. Most sysops know that's your sig.
I have tried to learn you, boy....IM works best for
coordinating. The days of the lone wolf wrecking the
place are almost over. - TK
-----
To: Ames [name removed by request] [AmesG's email address]
From: EWig/TK
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007
With all that's been happening our window of
opportunity has pretty much closed for a while. I
assume you know of Jtl emailing through the board
mail, every sysop?
My thoughts are that it is good to have TK attacked at
RW, the more they are nasty to TK, the more power he
gets at CP.
What my issue is, some at RW, once they understood who
E.Wig was, continued the nastiness to his persona as
well. In spite of all that, I have continued to help
and assist those who actually dislike CP enough to do
something.
I guess my "problem" is the problem others have with
differentiating between the character that TK is (and
he truly is a character, and not at all representative
of my own views on wiki's or life) and E.Wig, the
person who has been undermining and subverting CP for
months now.
When users at RW seek to expose Wig, link him to TK
publicly on RW, instead of covering it up, like when
stupid me forgets who he is logged in as, it makes me
wonder if those people are more interested in hating
than accepting someone who has been on their side
since before RW existed. Ditto the forums, and Kels
exposing our planning forum there. Silly and reckless,
over a perceived hate.
We can use the chat feature at one of my blanked
boards, if this helps communication run smoother and
faster than email. Just let me know.
--------
TK is playing an internet game. He has targeted your
site. He doesn't care about Conservapedia, he is just
in it for the power, for the "fun" of using people and
pushing them around. This is his hobby, he is an
internet paraiah.
He is blocking good CP users and recruiting them to
Rationalwiki.
He is actively sabotaging Conservapedia.
His articles are all plagarized. He is participating
in framing sysop Rob S. He plants suspicions about
good CP users and hides the RW socks. TK is evil and
deceitful. And you have given him power over your
site.
TK is up to no good.
It looks like his goal is to limit the abilities of
sysops, while increasing his own authority.
For instance, has he ever suggested some sysops should
have their abilities limited in some way? Perhaps be
unable to block or unblock users? Did he ever try to
stop anyone from having charge of a function, like the
IRC group, or being named in some capacity for the
site? Does he insist others need to get his approval
before doing a sysop function, or must talk to him
about it first?
He was recently elevated to "Siteadmin", next he will
most likely seek Beaurocrat status. Then his plan is
to try to drive a wedge between the boss (andy S) and
the Sysops.
Look out for the following behavior:
If he suggests there should be more "distance" between
the boss and the other sysops, or there would be
"better communication" if all sysops requests were
routed through him. Or if he suggests that giving
himself more authority over the other sysops would
"free you up" for more important things, or asks to be
appointed in charge of the other sysops. We believe
his plan is to destroy Conservapedia.
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